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Re: What is so great about wax, and correction? - 12 years ago
Quoting Bill : "Look asshole I do not appreciate being called a liar! You are a rude jerk, and I have enough your crap. You have never called Gem , and I know that for a fact. I am done with you. " -Bill D above- Is this sort of vulgarity and name-calling acceptable on any forum ? Dougby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Two common stories from the detailing forums - 12 years ago
Quoting Bill : "...here is someone with the brain capacity of a earth worn making a statement based on zero knowledge. " "...so caught up in his ego that he can only distort everything I say. " ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Are personal insults acceptable debate on this forum ? Dougby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: How does wax bond to paint? - 12 years ago
Quoting Bill- 5. The last and ultimate question, which all of this has been leading up to: What does the 43rd layer of Z2 bond to, and how in the world does it do it? The answer is: Nothing, because the other 42 layers bonded to nothing. Nothing from nothing leaves nothing. That is what wax has to offer as far as protection goes. Answer : Zaino is not a " wax " . It is a seby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Logic according to Bill Daley - 12 years ago
Quoting Bill : "This guy is beyond belief. He never ends with the constant irrational rambling ..." ."..and tell this nut job to give it a rest. He can write all the posts he likes, but this constant negativity is really getting old. " ."..he is worse than Bud. " Is this language and name-calling proper conduct on an open forum ? Dougby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Polishing or just removing the remaining wax - 12 years ago
Bill posted : "Randy, when you become a car detailer then maybe you may have a clue what the hell you are talking about. " Is that language considered civil discussion on this forum ? Dougby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Ron's reality - 12 years ago
Bill- So... you call one of us " Brain dead " and say another is " full of crap " and that's just on this thread. Stop and think about what you sound like to anyone reading this forum, please .by Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Something to consider - 12 years ago
Bill : Quoting You : "Quote: Dr. G Chemist: Waxes as you pointed out wear out over time with washing. Who should we listen to? You or a chemist? Answer : Listen to me . Dougby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Something to consider - 12 years ago
Bill- Frequent washing won't cause waxes and sealants to wear off if, as I said earlier, you use a mild car wash soap and if that soap has ingredients that add protection to your wax, washing can extend the life of the wax . Surely, you are not implying that one shouldn't wash the car frequently for fear he will remove the wax ! Commercial car washes strip natural waxes anby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Something to consider - 12 years ago
Bill- The best way to preserve the finish will be to wash it frequently, thereby preventing contaminants from building up to the point where washing grinds them into the surface. Frequent washing also keeps contaminents from chemically attacking the paint and etching it . Washing with a boar's hair truck brush and/or a washing mop while rinsing with a pressure wand will minimize scratby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: More on Complaining Customers - 12 years ago
Gina- Be careful about interpreting people's meaning. " I don't need a great job done " can mean, " Relax, I don't expect perfection but want it rectified, so you needn't charge me top dollar and fuss over my car all day ". The above is a reasonable approach for a customer to take. It is similar to asking a tire store for some cheap tireby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Ron's reality - 12 years ago
Bill : You have a right to disagree with Gina but I think your attempt to discredit her based on that disagreement is abhorrant. Likewise, Ron Ketcham ( Grumpy ) is not automatically right but it is absurd to say he lacks experience . To knock others on the forum as you do is unseemly . Bud is fair game ( LOL) . If carnauba wax caused damage, the product liability suits wouldby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Response from a professional to my question - 12 years ago
Terry towels causing swirls in paint ???? Abrasive cleaners in the wax causing swirls ????? " The only time a polish should be used is if the paint gets scratched " ????? I have been unable to detect any scratching / swirls caused by quality terry towels . Cleaners in wax do not leave swirls, although harsh cleaner/waxes can dull the finish . I use a light pby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: What new members REALLY need to know about detailing - 12 years ago
My List For New Members to Know : 1) Zaino's Web address . WWW.Zainostore.com 2) That frequent washing is more important than which wax you use . 3) To try products or techniques on a test spot first . 4) That washing the engine compartment can cause trouble... 5) To wear gloves and eye protection 6) To try the mildest chemical first and move to harsher chemicby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: WHY DO NICE GUYS FAIL... - 12 years ago
Bud- If memory serves, there is testimony that "Leo the Lip" Durocher cheated by rigging up a telephone so that a man stealing signs could call them in to the dugout or something --anyway, the hitters knew what pitch was coming and that may be how Tommy Thompson hit a legendary homer . IIRC the article was in the Wall Street Journal ... Nice guy !by Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Prices - 12 years ago
Gina : People these days have less respect for everyone ; blue collar workers, cops, neighbors--you name it . I remember Rush Limbaugh talking about a statement in Hillary Clinton's book in which she described suddenly realizing that her cleaning woman was a human being . Limbaugh went to town on that, saying most of us know that custodial workers are human . The best you caby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: WHY DO NICE GUYS FAIL... - 12 years ago
Bud- Thought-provoking subject ! A lot of human interaction doesn't work the way we expect it to . I remember reading about a successful female real estate broker who said one of her requirements for hiring a new agent was that the agent not be too nice . " The Insider's Guide For Buying A New Or Used Car " by Burke Leon notes that nice people get pushed around aby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Prices - 12 years ago
A good sales approach might be : 1) " I gotta see the car to give you a price estimate ". Can you get over here within the next hour ? 2) " I have to see the car for the same reason you have to see a used car before offering to buy it ". 3) " I can tell you that the most it could run is ___________but that would be if it needed a lot of work. Most of theby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: How did you get your training? - 12 years ago
Can't resist a few funny quotes : " You'd be surprised what you can see just by observing " - Yogi Berra " They say to practice but I never practiced. I just played. " -Minnesota Fats- " Those who can, do. Those who cannot, teach. Those who can't teach, teach gym. Those who couldn't even teach gym taught at our school ". - Wooby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Carpet Stains - Candy Food Colours - 12 years ago
I'd never do this but ...FWIW, I heard you could get a little carpet from a hidden area, such as under a seat and... ...cut away all of the stained fibers. Glue fibers from the hidden area in to replace of the ones you cut out . The repair should be less noticable than the stain. This glue and fiber trick can be used to hide cigarette burns too . For big stains, a trim shop coby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: the next step - 12 years ago
bobm- From your past posts, I'm under the impression that you aren't charging enough . That will make it hard to pay an employee . If I'm wrong, well, I said it was my impression ... You might want to consider making prospective employess pay for training. If someone is willing to pay you to better him, he is likely a motivated person. Here are some " speedby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Carpet Stains - Candy Food Colours - 12 years ago
Bud's ideas make sense. I'm guessing that the candy is semi-solid and heat will melt it and make it easier to remove. Maybe appying Awesome Carpet Stain Remover from the dollar store, placing a towel over the spot, and using a household steam iron will work. ( ?) Dougby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: Customer Rudeness - 12 years ago
Gina- Some people cannot be reasoned with. When you encounter those folks, you have to let them go away and forget about them. That said, I've encountered some extremely rude people at work , only to have them return later to apologize for their behavior . Maybe they were decent people who got nutty when under stress . At any rate, I was glad I had held my tongue with them insteaby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: water spots - 12 years ago
moonlight : The others gave you helpful advice . I'm not sure why you felt they didn't. Bill's advice to try detailing clay was good, too. Vinegar can help remove water spots. As Bud says, neutralize it afterwards by washing the car with a weak solution of alkaline APC . Zaino Glass Polish can work on the windows. No doubt, so can other brands of glass cleanby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: blood - 12 years ago
I got a blood stain out of household carpet by blotting and rubbing with white cotton towels and L.A.s Totally Awesome Carpet Stain Remover from a dollar store, Dollar Tree, IIRC . Martha Stewart said "for washables, soak bloodstains in cold water first. Use digestant. If necessary, flush with vingar or hydrogen peroxide. Use an eyedropper to remove color . " " nonwaby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: You might love or hate this... - 12 years ago
Bill : Apparently you misread I wrote - -that Zaino recommends washing with dawn to remove any wax or sealant already there, so Zaino will adhere properly. Obviously, this means dish liquids strip wax . If you re-read my post, you'll see that I was not advocating use of Dawn as a regular car wash product. It is common knowlege that wax does not break down and have to be buffed oby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: You might love or hate this... - 12 years ago
Pro-techt - I was simply asking a question, not expressing an opinion . It appears from what has been said here that repainting has a lot of negative effects, that the detailer in question only removed a small amount of clearcoat, and that repainting is a last resort for some cars . Bill : Washing with Dawn does not scratch the paint ( or do any other noticable damage ) . Waby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: FREE Sealant & Wax Study - 12 years ago
Bud- Not insinuating anything. I simply reprinted some old posts, including your side, which I think was a fair thing to do. Concours raised a valid point, and I made a quip implying that the test might at least help you promote your products . I'll get over the disappointment of your refusal to reignite the flame war LOL. Dougby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: You might love or hate this... - 12 years ago
Friends : If I understand correctly, the entire car was wet-sanded and buffed . I wonder how much clearcoat was removed in the process. Even if less than 1/2 mil was removed, the paint is still thinner than it was. Might it have been better to repaint the car instead of restoring the paint ? Note- Anyone who question's Dalton's prices should consider his liability shouldby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: FREE Sealant & Wax Study - 12 years ago
Concours : The test might still be beneficial to Bud ( LOL ).by Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re: FREE Sealant & Wax Study - 12 years ago
Profile- Bud and I have had some serious flame-ups over his wax test. See excerpts below : Doug Delmont [ PM ] Wax Test Fair ? September 17, 2004 12:56AM <HTML> Bud described a laboratory study of 25 waxes and sealants in posts on 5/2/04 and 8/8/04 . From reading his posts, it appears the waxes were applied over bare surfaces and without any accompanying polish or cleaner. Soby Doug Delmont - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts