Bud – You’re confused on several fronts. (1) this conversation is about removing paint from INTERIORS. Not exterior painted surfaces! (2) I’m not from Australia?? I'm simply going by what you criticized me for where I mentioned using glass cleaner to spruce up carpeting. Your reply was as follows withing quotes[]: Quote: “I am not here to tell you what to do. Only that it is much saferby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
We used to use a yellow bug sponge/brick and Auto Magic Power Cut Compound with soapy water to scrub down dead Gel Coat as well as single stage paints. Worked very well.by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
It boils down to removing/abrading away the oxidized surface, but is usually only a temporary fix unless you use a product that can actually "lock in" the reconditioned surface. Unfortunately, wax and sealants cannot do this (atleast for very long). What I've found to work (permanantly) is Optimum Opti-Coat which is a Wipe On Walk Away (WOWA) procuct. It's a permanant coatingby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Bud - What happened to being "a firm believer in using chemicals "only" for the purpose they were formulated for"?by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
If it looks and feels like a sponge, it's going to act like a sponge. It can and will retain moisture.by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
If the soiling is in the cushion, I don't know how you'd clean it without taking the seat cover off? Sounds more like a band aid. You could extract all day, but don't see how you'll be able to pull out the soiling that deep? You can get the seat cover clean, but yes (like you said), it might wick back up when exposed to wetness again. I've always had good luck correby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
paulp Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I haven't banned anyone, at least not for the kind > of activity we are talking about here. The point > sometimes is made that a well moderated message > board with zero tolerance for even the slightest > amount of abusive activity attracts the best and > most qualified postings. There is aby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Bill - I don't want you to stop posting, just stop posting just about AT-5 all the time. It's getting super old. Your way of detailing might be good for you and your clients, but 99.99999999% of all other detailers see things the complete opposite of you. All for a good reason in my opinion. We've tried explaining our way to you countless times, but you just still don't seem tby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
I’m going to add my narrative to this so that Paul can view accurate information to make his choices from. Even though this is a free and open forum, it doesn’t mean that it can go unwatched. I also feel this forum has gone off the deep end and lacks moderation. I’d hate for it to meet its demise because of one issue, but I’m afraid that is what might have already happened. In the meantime, I thiby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Interesting how 4 out of 5 people who voted think that sealants actually protect your finish from car washes. They certainly don't protect from the "soft" cloths car washes use that create swirls in everyone's finish. I guess that's creating more work for detailers that do correction....by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Quote: The AT5, as stated by me many times, is a good sealant, with light polishing abilities..... I've seen Bill constantly mentioning how much different AT-5 makes the paint look. Can I get more explaination about these "polishing abilities"? Are they considered cleaners and/or fillers?by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Quote: I agree to a point. Maybe reapplication is not needed, but as you said it is still just a clear coat. If Opti- Coat is so tough, why are special wash methods needed, or light polishing either? What does the deterioration look like, and what are the causes of it? Again, re-read what I’m saying because you’re taking things out of context. I never said “special wash methods are needed”.by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
billd55 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quote: > > Well it is quite the opposite with AT-5, The > shine with AT-5 is awesome. Usually , the > polishing you talk about is not needed. > I realize this a strange concept to you, and I get > that. Since swirl marks never happen with this > product, and no damage happens from things lby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Re-read my post. I never said wrote that it *can* be easily removed. Are you then saying that AT-5 can be machine polished without any need to reapply it? Opti-coat doesn't diminish over time and doesn't need reapplication. When applied, it also doesn't add shine either. It's just like applying additional hydrophobic clearcoat paint to your vehicle. Opti-coat isby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Very mild. Hardly no snow here in Michigan. You guys have salt and sand?by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
billd55 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Pro-Techt > > We have had several newbies coming to this forum > looking for advise on how to start a low cost > detailing business. > What would it take as far as cost and training > goes for these people to apply Opti-Coat on > people's newer cars. Flaws > would be much more easyby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Bill - stay on track with the discusion here. We're talking about true protection. Opti-Coat is true protection via a sacrifical barrier that blocks out pretty much every environmental concern one would have from damaing the paint it's protecting. And yes, it can't be easily removed which is one thing that makes it so great. You don't need to keep reappling the product eitherby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
buda Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Pro-Tech you are absolutely correct. There isn't > a more knowledgeable and giving person in the > detail industry than Ron Ketcham With all due respect, you're no slouch either Bud. Kudos to all you've ackomplished too.by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
billd55 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quote: > > What product exactly do you suggest to use? Also, what do you define as *real* long term protection exactly? I suggest Optimum Opti-Coat. You can't kill the product. It doesn't wear away. billd55 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quote: >by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
I have to say that Ron is one of the most knowledgeable and helpful people I've ever met. I think any detailer would be blessed to have 1/100th of his experience and knowledge. People like him are a value to our industry and a rarity.by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Neither one gets my vote because I don't use wax or sealants to create shine. I polish the paint because the shine it creates is better and will not go away until it's re-marred (a long ways down the road). Anytime you apply a product that dramatically creates more shine it's short lived. After polishing, waxes/sealants do very little to improve the paint's appearance. Beaby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Thanks for the update Moonlight. Please keep us posted on how AT-5 holds up. Let us know when(if) the car looses any of it's freshly detailed shine. And also if the beading characteristics change too. As far as the Tacoma paint goes.......It's a textbook case of clear coat failure & I've seen it quite often. Toyotas in this era were know for having/using some of the worstby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
I didn’t want you to think I was avoiding you, but I’ve been up to my ears with work, personal stuff and the holidays. billd55 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- You must have misunderstood what Rich told you here. AT-5 does reduce marring from washing. I specifically asked Rich if AT-5 reduced marring AND had any kind of anti-marring properties and he cleaby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
I couldn't get that link to open, but I googled "Auto-Magic-Polishing-Pad-Shine-Eraser" and it appears to be a clay block/sponge? If so, I don't think this is an AM product? I used to get rebranded Lake Country clay holsters from my AM rep which was basically a white or black foam pad with the center carved out so you could insert your clay into it, attach it to your DA bufferby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
billd55 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I am assuming that since this car was a lease, that the new owner could not been driven more than 30,000 miles in two years at best, and was garage kept. Also, it was not taken to car washes either. The only car washes they visited on occasion were touchless ones. Yes, probably around 30K. Also keep in mind that thby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
And probably a different color and smell as MD is blue right?by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
I deal with people involved in tragic situations daily. You wouldn't believe how many people wreck their cars w/o having rental insurance (which is about $30/yr). They freak out when I tell them it might take 30+ days before their car is repaired and back to them. All we can do is be patient and understanding as much as possible, but don't let people disrespect you. Be firm in your stanby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
I know it's just going to be temporary, but do you have any experience with Auto Magic's Bumper Magic?by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Grumpy2 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you have removed the silicone dressings, got > the trim really clean, you can apply just the > UVGard from the ETR kit, it will last on a clean > surface for years. > If the trim is discolored, use the entire system > to restore it permanently. Is this the product GM requested when correcting tby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Bill (and anyone else wondering): I’m replying to these questions raised ONLY as an attempt to explain (politely) how correction and proper washing of a vehicle can be a viable option for perfect preservation & protection of an automobile. This is NOT in any way, shape of form at attempt to argue or disrespect Bill’s opinion. Here goes… billd55 Wrote: -------------------------------------by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts