27 hours to correct a problem

This detailer states that he detailed this car 3 years ago when new.You can clearly see in the first picture dated 3/11/08 he is using a wheel with a wool pad when the car was new. WHY would this be necessary to use abrasives on a new car?

There is absolutely zero doubt that wax was applied to this vehicle. The name of his company is justwaxed.net.

He makes this statement:
Someone else had been here(Holograms a plenty....).


How does he know that? He could have asked the owner if someone else touched the car since him, but he assumes that or does not want to know.


He makes this statement:

Top right rear quarter before, almost looks like I sanded it......but I did not.



Well, you can see it for yourself if you want to. Fact: a wheel was used on this vehicle. Fact: 3 years later it looks like crap. Fact: it is garage kept. Fact:
wax was used.


My question to all you correction detailers is this? How long will it take for this car to look like this again? This is at least the third time this car has been compounded and polished in three years.

I showed you two examples of vehicles done new with AT-5 that have never once
been corrected, and I can say they look just as good as this Rolls does.Truly
this is just smoke and mirrors covering up damage he at least started.


Clearly, he was the first person to detail this car. Clearly, someone else(maybe)
found a need to correct his work with more correction and wax, but is this damage
repaired or just covered up with glazes and polishes?

Is this guy a hack or professional?

When I call a plumber do I want him to cover up the problem for a short time,
or fix it.When I call roofer do I want him to cover up the problem for a short time, or fix it? Do you get the point here?

Why do you change the oil in your car ever 3,000 miles? To prevent engine damage
of course. A professional mechanic tells you this to avoid damage.

What has this detailer offered his customer? Has damage been been avoided to this
paint finish? Clearly not, so what benefit has his service really been except to cover up his damage and get paid for it.

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I disagree. It is wash-damage. Look at the metal Just because the pattern appears circular in the lights does not mean that it is caused by a rotary machine. That is the reflective nature of light. It won't reflect "square", only circular on swirl marks.

The after-shots are very clear and sharp. He did a good correction and that is the service he gave to his client. Its a Rolls Royce and it looks like a Rolls Royce should.

If you don't believe me, check the pictures again but don't look at the overall circular pattern, instead look at the individual scratches - they go in every direction, not actually in a circular pattern.

You need a physics professor to explain why its a circular pattern. Kind of like when you see writing reflected in a mirror, every letter is a horizontal reflection. Nobody can explain why it isn't a vertical reflection! Bizarre if you think about it.

Profile

I have washed many cars in my life,and I agree that washing was the reason for what you see as far as scratches go. Although,I know this car has been waxed, and
this is the result of the washing.



When I wash my cars I never see this ever.On the two cars I showed you in my videos.They were around the same age. I washed them with Dawn, and why are these scratches not seen on these cars?

I can show you more of these examples. I am a not saying the rotary machine caused these scratches, but the use of wax clearly did IMO, and correction was needed to remove them.

27 hours is a lot time, and considering if wax was used this time that it is more than likely that these scratches will happen again within a year. More correction
will be needed, and more of that top portion of the clear that contains the shine will be lost.

no way would I use a wool pad on a new car but if a new car has defects in it, yes I could bury them with glass membrane but I'd prefer to remove a tiny amount of paint and then glass coat it than just fill it

however after one more correction process, thats it for that particular vehicle
just filling and burial of defects, peel etc from that point for the best gloss achievable

when new marks come, just bury them in as well by hand or orbital in 5 mins

I decided to contact the detailer to ask a few questions, so not to assume anything here.You will notice he did not answer my second question, and that he only uses waxes for his protection step.

Bill,



The first time I did the car it needed wool pad correction as it was bad from the dealership, as for what I do for paint correction I do not share that information anymore as I have been burned in the past (hope you understand) and keep those steps to myself.



I utilize Blackfire Wet diamond usually, and also use Powerlock(Menzerna) and the new finishpolish/wax from Meguiars D301.



Robert Willis
Auto Concierge Auto Detailing
Paint Correction Specialist for
Ferrari, Porsche and Lamborghini
Tel: 1.925.852.1962
Email:
Website: www.justwaxed.net

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Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 1:36:33 PM
Subject: Questions about the black Rolls car you did

Bob

I saw your correction on the Black Rolls you posted on the truth in detailing forum, and wondered if you would answers some questions of mine.

1. You mentioned that you detailed this car new 3 years ago, and what was the reason for using a wheel on it
the first time?
What products were used ?

2. Did the customer mention who had detailed this car since the first time you did it?


3. What product do you normally use as your sealant?


Regards

Bill Daley



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/12/2011 11:58AM by billd55.

There are different wool pads out there now. They are not all extremely aggressive. I often use lambswool with my XC3401 and its fantastic. Very controlled polishing and very few, if any, holograms. Then I just finish down with a polishing pad a little bit and the paint is ready to be sealed.

Profile,i like using lake countrys purple foamed wool pads on the flex3401. Like the lambs wool they leave an exellent finish before final polishing.

Me too. Fantastic pad. GTechniq lambswool pad is very good as well (on rotary) but very short-lived due to the fineness of the wool after milling.

But the purple wool pad is terrific on BMW and VAG paintwork.