You all may have valid points, AT5 is a very good product and I've been using it for 3 years now. I don't use it however as the end finish on my vehicle. You all talk like your looking for a mircle product that will give you the finish your looking for in a one step application. I quit looking for mircles long ago. I do a 5 step process to achieve the look I'm after and I only hby Madman072 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts