I'm right and you are wrong,and that is it.

I have heard that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again ,and expecting a different result each time.When I listen to Bud and a few others here it reminds of this statement.<br>

Clearly swirl marks and fine scratches are a common problem I hear from newbies like David68 who wants solutions on how to solve this problem.They come to these forums for advice, and the detailing gurus give them the same advice as Bud.<br>

When anyone dares to offer another solution to this problem they are banned,or
are passed off as a quack. I ask myself why this is, and the answer is very simple.Many of these detailers make the majority of their money doing correction work.They charge $20.00 to $50.00 an hour, and it can take hours to do.<br>

I feel using wax and polishes are the primary reason for swirl marks and fine scratches.Bud and the other gurus dance are around this subject by saying that is crazy.Well,I can tell you these problems do exist ,and to my knowledge there
is no cure,but go to a ida approved detailer and spend tons of money for correction.Please correct me if I am wrong.<br>


I am not saying that correction is not needed, but not as often as it is being
used.I am really get tried of seeing cars ruined by hacks detailers.What surprises
me that no one here is to concerned about this issue.<br>

Although, if I mention that I have a solution to swirl marks and fine scratches.
Well,the gurus are the first ones to shut down that idea.Have they tried it,No,
and they have no interest in trying it.<br>

Has Bud or any other person offered any solution to swirls and fine scratches but
expensive correction.Look,I have been around this business along time, and I can tell you that correction is an expensive short term fix.<br>

I am here because I know what an acrylic sealant can do.I want to inform people who want a solution to this problem without spending a small fortune.

Bill

Sorry, but what you are proposing is nothing new, been around for a few decades.
I used to market on the first "acrylic/polymer" products back in the mid 80's.
The manufacturer said pretty much as you, as their marketing approach.

Ketch
When did I ever say this was a new product, but what is strange is that very few people are aware of it,or have used it.It has been mainly sold to auto dealerships,and sold for hundreds of dollars.It has not been sold to the general public,and only a few detailers have any real experience using it.<br>


These kits are fairly priced,and you cannot beat that guarantee he offers.Do you think he would be that stupid to make that guarantee if it did not work? Any person
who wants to apply this product can with a little training,so in my mind,it is whole lot cheaper than correction.

Bill

Seen em come, seen em go, over the past 30 years.
Make a warranty, don't escrow for claims, pay a few claims for a while, just ride the wave, keep the revenue coming in.
Once the excessive claims do come in, most of the money has been moved off shore, and they bankrupt the company.
Leaves the buyer holding the bag.
Not saying this is the case, but has been done many times.

Ketch

You are very right,but this is not one.

Shine is a all about reflection and reflection is based on a smooth finish. The smoother the finish, the more the reflection, the deeper the shine. That is basic science and can not be changed.

One the one hand are the paint correction guys, use a polish to "smooth/level" out the finish then follow with a wax for gloss enhancement/protection

On the other hand are the acrylic guys, apply an acrylic that fills in the scratches hence leveling the finish and improve the shine. No real skill needed above applying the product.

I am not saying one is better than the other but my problem with the acrylics are how can a product applied from a can and air dried be as durable as the original paint and last years? I just don't see it. In the 50s guys used kerosene on paint to fill in the scratches, and improve the shine. It only lasted maybe a day. But it did work. Just not very durable. Fillers, acrylics they all work by filling in the scratches and leveling the surface, the rub comes from the lifetime/years claim for durability.

Both filling and correction have their place in the industry

What many have failed to realise or believe for years is that there are a few long term filling products that seal the paint by becoming part of the paint and thickening it up.

whilst traditional glazes use oils to fill and are washed or burnt away, the new breed are not using oils to fill
each product in their system locks in the previous one in and its filler

they all become part of the paint and thus are the paint and can fill in a hell of a lot of defects
they can be used to fill or just thicken and seal the paint

a combination of smartly correcting first and then applying the full glare system delivers incredible results

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no aquartz during this refinish
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