sanding it down a little will helpby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
wax - can someone spell "WANK FACTOR" thats all it is. I aint paying hundreds or thousands of dollars for swissvax or any of the other similar wax based products wax still has its place but not in my shop am with bill on this one - sealants and coatings are the best for clarity, depth and colour richness and that old saying - its all in the preparationby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
bill is right. wax doesnt make the shine, its all in the preparation dude wax is obsolete but still has its place for some nothing comes close to the finish that acrylic, glass and titanium based sealants doby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
QuotebudaSVR By all means please do indicate what more there is to paint finishing than what I suggested above? Certainly there is washing and claying, but that is about prepping and cleaning the finish not correcting, swirl-removing/polishing and protecting. You might want to mention wet or dry sanding, and while I can agree that "some" detailers do this, the majority do not.by svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
and thats why Id never use it on a paint finish propylene glycol sounds similar to the stuff thats in engine coolantby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
totally agree with you bothby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
very good point about detailing to satisy their own desires. I suffered from that somewhat these days I get $50 - $80 per hour depending on what I am doing and get between $200 and $1500 per detail depending on severity of work involved I dont cater for the typical motorist and have switched to part time detailing and moving on to a new career path If I detail every single day, the passion wby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
QuoteconcoursgarageThis man is conflicted... he wants to protect and maintain the car... and yet he says professional detailing is unnecessary and expensive.. well the news is he cannot want to have all the things he seems to want and not pay ... My recommendation because he has a black car and Audis are notoriously famous soft paint (at least that is my opinion) Many AUDI'S have rby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
yes there are too many who detail the car according to their own needs rather than the customers I'm all for achieving flawless finishes that last but thats not always needed or necessary australian consumers are more picky, the general public take care of their cars better than americans (at least in some states of america) and many want paint correction and a perfect finish but its notby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
thank you bud, appreciate you doing soby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Quotebilld55Svr73 how long do swirls get filled in for with the AT-5? I get a year with glare I am unsure what you mean by saying swirls get filled.The only things I know that will cover swirls are wax and glazes, but that is only for a short period.<br> When applying an acrylic sealant it is extremely for the clear coat to be completely clean. If a car has swirls, I start with aby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
more can be done than just that bud I wont say what they are though cause you'd never believe me anyhowby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
links didnt work bud, kept getting page not found or server errorby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Quotebilld55svr73 I really think you are too concerned with polishing and abrasives, and not protection. You mention :I'd love to know how to eliminate correction or make it far easier and quicker. Well, here is my answer. I am not exactly sure what you are using as your protection step, but it sounds like an polish. IMO polishes remove flaws and swirls, but do not seal or protect the miby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
spot on there bud. I'd love to know how to eliminate correction or make it far easier and quicker. maybe a move to titanium and zirconium oxide abrasives in a single polish system like S1 ultraby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
QuotebudaThe Auto manufacturers use a 2 part thermo-curing paint on the assembly line to paint vehicles probably 99% of which is base-cost/clear-coat. To cure this paint must be heated to over 300 degrees F. This is possible since there is nothing on the vehicle but metal. If there is any correction required after assembly they use an "acid-catalyzed" 2 part thermo-curing paint whicby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
I dont recommend using Dawn, its better IMO to invest in quality decontamination products that remove a hell of a lot of crud from the surface and sub surface then clay to finish off glare fills in for a long time as after the first three products are applied, the next one locks all the others in. there are three sealants overall. both toughseal and glare are excellent products but the fuby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Quotebilld55Svr 73 IMO, the paint on a car is the best it will ever be is on the day you buy it new. Detailers seem to be more concerned with correction than protection.Sure, there may be some flaws in the paint when new, but not that many that full correction methods are needed all the time.<br> The problem is that detailers are more concerned about shine and beading than trueby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
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QuoteBud Abraham<HTML>Would like to hear what you detailers are doing with regard to claying the paint finish on the vehicles you are working on. How many of you clay all cars? Why? Do you charge extra for this? How many of you do not clay cars? Why? Thanks for your input Regards Bud Abraham</HTML> wow this is an old thread I dewax and clay every car regardlby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
this is for the paint experts and people like BUDA with the modern paints being thermoset catalysed systems, will their ever be a way to reflow aka make the defects in the paint dissolve? I've been playing with this for nearly a year using various non abrasive systems at up to 3000 rpm with a rotary using special lubricant to prevent twisting, delaminating and burning/scoring of the pby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
QuoteDoug DelmontLarry- Good to see you are still here ! Actually Bud and I disagree a lot but I guess we are allies in this debate. Bill- In my experience, wax can get stained over time but it does not,as you say " lead to correction with a wheel ". You can either remove the wax with with Meguiar's All Purpose Plus at 64:1 or with Griots wax removal stuff or with Dawnby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
we are anxiously awaiting the perfection of an aerosol can based protective coating with a 7H scratch resistance level that is in fact a polyurethane paint but unlike urethane paint, has incredible protective properties and is extremely hard back to the sealants application via both machines are at speed 1 or 2 and no more and as I do the process, the glass and titanium based products increby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
QuotebudaGina As always you have an insightful and most intelligent reply. I commend your tenacity to seek more knowledge and to improve yourself in the auto detailing industry. Although I do not know if I am the most appropriate person to ask about the express detailing services. Again, the key word is maintenance not restoration and the other is express fast. But the problem may be mby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Quotebilld55For anyone who is working to be a true professional and do what is right, not as stated earlier, "that's the way I have done it and that's all I need to know" sort, you did the right thing. Don't let all the technical get in your way. Learn to at least try the excellent advice being provided by long, long time experts in the field such at Gina and Bud, keepby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
QuoteDoug DelmontHere is a link to Toughseal : I once spoke to a pro detailer who used Toughseal. He said it lasted 6 months, not the " up to 15 years " mentioned by the maker. The product contains PTFE, a generic name fot Teflon. Some sources say Teflon does not work the same way on cars as it does on pots and pans because it cannot be bonded to paint the same way it is to cby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Quotebilld55scr73 You brought up toughseal, and I believe it is the same product as AT-5. I found a company in Sydney who uses it . I like their marketing approach. Do you know these guys? dont know the guy who owns the business at all but have seen his videos on you tube pretty good corrector toughseal has only 8% teflon and dont believe that it helps with protection teflons onlyby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
AT-5 sounds like eurochem toughseal. a great acrylic system I prefer glare over anything on the market as it does what toughseal does but even more than that. fills orange peel, reverses oxidation without needing compounds, enhances metal flake pop and increases colour shade depth and clarity like no other and protects very well. even thickens the paint correction has its place but its notby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
bud - maybe there would be spider scratches if I looked at the paint with a forensic microscope or something near to that but from 1000 lumen LED lights, halogens, sun gun and HID lights, I never see any marring in my work I no longer use compounds or diminishing abrasives, the new SMAT spray formulas from optimum, the 3 in 1 system one X3 polish and a 5 abrasive ceramix formula that is mby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
liquid ebony is a short term filler product. I dont believe in using short term fillers, either correction polishes, paint deep cleaners and long term fillersby svr73 - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts