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Newly Painted Car
Posted by Mark Rogers
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Newly Painted Car May 11, 2004 06:04PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 36 |
<HTML>How long after a car has been painted do you guys recommend it be waxed. Had a vehicle in here today, just fully painted last night, and our used car manager wants it waxed. I don't feel comfortable doing that thinking the paint hasn't fully cured yet? What would a recommended wax time be, and what is the best explanation to give the used car manager about this situation?</HTML>
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Re: Newly Painted Car May 11, 2004 07:53PM |
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Re: Newly Painted Car May 11, 2004 07:56PM |
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Re: Newly Painted Car May 11, 2004 08:33PM |
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<HTML>It depends on the paint.
Some are faster at curing than others.
Some cure by evaporation.
Some cure by chemical reaction.
IMO, one day is too soon for any paint.
If you have never seen "paint popping", wax the car, LOL!!
A product like Zaino would be best on new paint, as it allows the paint to cure, but wax on the other hand, does not allow for the paint to properly cure.</HTML>
"The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
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Some are faster at curing than others.
Some cure by evaporation.
Some cure by chemical reaction.
IMO, one day is too soon for any paint.
If you have never seen "paint popping", wax the car, LOL!!
A product like Zaino would be best on new paint, as it allows the paint to cure, but wax on the other hand, does not allow for the paint to properly cure.</HTML>
"The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
www.waynestowels.com
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Re: Newly Painted Car May 11, 2004 08:51PM |
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Re: Newly Painted Car May 13, 2004 02:57AM |
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Re: Newly Painted Car May 13, 2004 04:21AM |
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<HTML>What all the manufacturers and automotive paint companies will tell you is the following:
1. When painted at the factory using a thermal curing paint that is baked at 340 degrees you have to wait 21 days before waxing or sealing.
2. In the aftermarket you must wait 60 to 90 days depending on the climatic conditions before waxing or sealing.
This is to insure that all of the solvent in the paint has evaporated. If you sell the solvent in you can get solvent popping and blistering and/or discoloring of the paint.
No magic, no confusion these are the standard rules as indicated by the above mentioned authorities.
Bud Abraham</HTML>
buda
1. When painted at the factory using a thermal curing paint that is baked at 340 degrees you have to wait 21 days before waxing or sealing.
2. In the aftermarket you must wait 60 to 90 days depending on the climatic conditions before waxing or sealing.
This is to insure that all of the solvent in the paint has evaporated. If you sell the solvent in you can get solvent popping and blistering and/or discoloring of the paint.
No magic, no confusion these are the standard rules as indicated by the above mentioned authorities.
Bud Abraham</HTML>
buda
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Re: Newly Painted Car May 13, 2004 10:41PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 443 |
<HTML>Did you know...,
Not all paint cures by evaporation?
Did you know...,
There are many paints that are cured by chemical reaction and has nothing to do with evaporation.
Just thought I would throw that out there for reference.
Times are changing and paints as well as detailing products keep getting more and more sophisticated with technology and the advancements are quite amazing.
From year to year there are new developments and the quality keeps getting better and better thanks to strong competition in the marketplace.
The new products really blow away the "old school" stuff
</HTML>
"The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
www.waynestowels.com
Not all paint cures by evaporation?
Did you know...,
There are many paints that are cured by chemical reaction and has nothing to do with evaporation.
Just thought I would throw that out there for reference.
Times are changing and paints as well as detailing products keep getting more and more sophisticated with technology and the advancements are quite amazing.
From year to year there are new developments and the quality keeps getting better and better thanks to strong competition in the marketplace.
The new products really blow away the "old school" stuff
</HTML>"The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
www.waynestowels.com
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Re: Newly Painted Car May 14, 2004 01:24AM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 3,550 |
<HTML>Wayne
You are absolutely correct when you say that not all paint cures by air.
There are two types of paint, soluable and insoluable.
Soluable paint is made with air drying resins. As the solvent evaporates from the paint it cures.
Insoluable paint is made with chemically drying resins which when exposed to the air, form a molecule that cures the paint.
The point you miss, is that even though this type of paint has chemically curing resins. solvents are still need as the carrier in order to spray the paint. So, there is solvent in the chemically curing paint that has to evaporate.
Even the factory paint, which is obviously, chemically curing and baked at 340 degrees stilll have some solvent in it and needs at least 21 days to allow the solvent to evaporate.
When we speak of evaporation we are not talking about curing.
Hope that clears up the misunderstanding you have.
BudAbraham</HTML>
buda
You are absolutely correct when you say that not all paint cures by air.
There are two types of paint, soluable and insoluable.
Soluable paint is made with air drying resins. As the solvent evaporates from the paint it cures.
Insoluable paint is made with chemically drying resins which when exposed to the air, form a molecule that cures the paint.
The point you miss, is that even though this type of paint has chemically curing resins. solvents are still need as the carrier in order to spray the paint. So, there is solvent in the chemically curing paint that has to evaporate.
Even the factory paint, which is obviously, chemically curing and baked at 340 degrees stilll have some solvent in it and needs at least 21 days to allow the solvent to evaporate.
When we speak of evaporation we are not talking about curing.
Hope that clears up the misunderstanding you have.
BudAbraham</HTML>
buda
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