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water marks on cloth seat removal???????????????
Posted by Ryan Stewart
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water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 02, 2004 02:44PM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 7 |
<HTML>I recently had a customer that brought a VW Bug to us for an interior detail. My guys shampooed the seats and the customer is now complaining that when the seats dryed it left water rings on the cloth. I have since sent my guys back to re do the seats but they were not able to remove the rings. What is the secret for removing these water mark shampoo stains????????
Thanks,
Ryan S</HTML>
Thanks,
Ryan S</HTML>
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Re: water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 02, 2004 03:16PM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 237 |
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Re: water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 02, 2004 03:17PM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 237 |
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Re: water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 02, 2004 03:40PM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 7 |
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Re: water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 02, 2004 05:37PM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 237 |
<HTML>I have seen this a fair bit on german cars of late, it seems to be a design fault due to the foam they are using in the seats containing dyes and other stuff.
This may or may not be the case on your car... although I have not come across it beatles. you will soon know if the stains just keep appearing no matter what you do.
We have found that if you dry them quick it doesn't draw any nasty stuff up from the foam. So we towel dry and then blow dry with an industrial blower.
Before we let it dry in the sun as it was hot here, and the marks kept appearing as the seats dried.
I'm not sure you are having the same problem we have had, but I hope this helps.</HTML>
This may or may not be the case on your car... although I have not come across it beatles. you will soon know if the stains just keep appearing no matter what you do.
We have found that if you dry them quick it doesn't draw any nasty stuff up from the foam. So we towel dry and then blow dry with an industrial blower.
Before we let it dry in the sun as it was hot here, and the marks kept appearing as the seats dried.
I'm not sure you are having the same problem we have had, but I hope this helps.</HTML>
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Re: water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 02, 2004 08:11PM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 36 |
<HTML>Had this happen to us about 3 years ago. Our old Detail Manager cleaned tan cloth seats on a used beetle because the custmer was complaining they were dirty when it was purchased. He cleaned them with an extractor (he actually didn't use that much water), and the seats looked alot better. Well, the customer brought the car back 2 days later, and the seats were near black. It was like all of the dirt from the foam pad inside the seat was brought to the surface. That was a costly repair!</HTML>
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Re: water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 02, 2004 08:33PM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 7 |
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Re: water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 02, 2004 09:03PM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 166 |
<HTML>I have done numerous beetles with those come back stains lol
First i use a pre cleaner like AM ez uphosltery shampoo, then followed by a good steaming with my steam machine to penatrate and lift the stains, then followed with my heated dual 3 stage ninja with 185 lift with a no drip tool. Those stains never come back!!!!!
There is also a product from chem spec called absorb-a-stain that works well . You can get at your local chemical supplier</HTML>
First i use a pre cleaner like AM ez uphosltery shampoo, then followed by a good steaming with my steam machine to penatrate and lift the stains, then followed with my heated dual 3 stage ninja with 185 lift with a no drip tool. Those stains never come back!!!!!
There is also a product from chem spec called absorb-a-stain that works well . You can get at your local chemical supplier</HTML>
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Re: water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 03, 2004 05:50AM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 1,838 |
<HTML>The water stains you are talking about are next to impossible to remove unless your customer doesn't mind their interior smelling like vinegar.
What happens is exactly like a water spot on the car -- the water dries and the only things left behind are the minerals from the water which are now set into the fibers.
An acidic cleanser should work but it also may not. Could also damage the fibers. Thats why I let the customer know ahead of time that the water stains may not be fully removed.</HTML>
Take care,
Brian
Precision Auto & Marine
Learn to detail boats! Visit www.detailtheboat.com
What happens is exactly like a water spot on the car -- the water dries and the only things left behind are the minerals from the water which are now set into the fibers.
An acidic cleanser should work but it also may not. Could also damage the fibers. Thats why I let the customer know ahead of time that the water stains may not be fully removed.</HTML>
Take care,
Brian
Precision Auto & Marine
Learn to detail boats! Visit www.detailtheboat.com
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Re: water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 03, 2004 12:33PM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 7 |
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Re: water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 03, 2004 02:18PM |
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<HTML>If the customer is willing to pay for the extra labor, and one has some mechanical expertise, pull the seats out.
It is not that hard to remove the cloth covers, need some hog ring pliers, a couple of wrenches.
Take off the cloth and clean it, let it completely dry, do a dry brush rub of the foam, and when all is dry and the stains are removed, put the covers back on and reinstall the seats.
We have two seat parts in our classroom, which we use to show how seats are put together, the foam, how the cloth may or may not have a polyfoam backing etc, so those new to detailing can actually see and understand how these things are built.
Grumpy</HTML>
Do it right or don't do it at all!
It is not that hard to remove the cloth covers, need some hog ring pliers, a couple of wrenches.
Take off the cloth and clean it, let it completely dry, do a dry brush rub of the foam, and when all is dry and the stains are removed, put the covers back on and reinstall the seats.
We have two seat parts in our classroom, which we use to show how seats are put together, the foam, how the cloth may or may not have a polyfoam backing etc, so those new to detailing can actually see and understand how these things are built.
Grumpy</HTML>
Do it right or don't do it at all!
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Re: water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 03, 2004 04:03PM |
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Re: water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 03, 2004 10:31PM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 1,838 |
<HTML>Ryan,
Ron is exactly right for this prevention -- a waterproofer/fabric protector for professional use.
For boats I use Marykate's Fabric Waterproofer and water will not penetrate the fibers -- just puddles up until you push the canvas up and let the water drain. However, this is for outdoor protection but maybe Ron can clear up if this can be used on interiors as well.
Ron offers Fabric Protector for autos.</HTML>
Take care,
Brian
Precision Auto & Marine
Learn to detail boats! Visit www.detailtheboat.com
Ron is exactly right for this prevention -- a waterproofer/fabric protector for professional use.
For boats I use Marykate's Fabric Waterproofer and water will not penetrate the fibers -- just puddles up until you push the canvas up and let the water drain. However, this is for outdoor protection but maybe Ron can clear up if this can be used on interiors as well.
Ron offers Fabric Protector for autos.</HTML>
Take care,
Brian
Precision Auto & Marine
Learn to detail boats! Visit www.detailtheboat.com
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Re: water marks on cloth seat removal??????????????? September 04, 2004 01:24AM |
Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 505 |
<HTML>Any "quality" hydrocarbon carrier, correct resin content, product will provide both outside and interior protection.
Could tell you a story about a "test", not scientific, just one I did while living in SoCal, regarding a very cheap cotton out door umbrella, water repellence, extention of fabric life etc, using our product of this type of chemistry.
Ketch</HTML>
Do it right or don't do it all!
Could tell you a story about a "test", not scientific, just one I did while living in SoCal, regarding a very cheap cotton out door umbrella, water repellence, extention of fabric life etc, using our product of this type of chemistry.
Ketch</HTML>
Do it right or don't do it all!
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