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Posted by JustinMat
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Re: Novice Questions November 04, 2004 04:40AM |
<HTML>-1) Turtle Wax is OK. The more important issue is "What are you doing to
-PREP your cars finish?"
Anthony,
Thank you for your helpful reply. The wheels seem to spin a little slowly around here but that would make sense since most of the people here seem to be extremely experienced; which in-turn probably means busy.
Since my post I have done a lot of research on various "waxes" that leave a good shine with a long lasting presence. I've come to the conclusion that either Zaino or Meguiers is the way to go for me: at least to try.
Prepping my car?
Well, I never clayed before but I hear a lot about it. I've never "polished" my car, either. It's brand new, btw. A 2004 Accord. Would you be so kind as to take me through the steps of that prep before waxing?
My steps are simple:
1. Rinse for dust/dirt
2. Remove bugs/tar/bird dr
3. Rince again
4. Wash
5. Rince
6. Dry Completely
7. Spray on wax
Obviously I'm very much a novice, but I am doing a lot of research and I'm hoping to actually get better at this, please bear with me.</HTML>
V/R
Justin.
-PREP your cars finish?"
Anthony,
Thank you for your helpful reply. The wheels seem to spin a little slowly around here but that would make sense since most of the people here seem to be extremely experienced; which in-turn probably means busy.
Since my post I have done a lot of research on various "waxes" that leave a good shine with a long lasting presence. I've come to the conclusion that either Zaino or Meguiers is the way to go for me: at least to try.
Prepping my car?
Well, I never clayed before but I hear a lot about it. I've never "polished" my car, either. It's brand new, btw. A 2004 Accord. Would you be so kind as to take me through the steps of that prep before waxing?
My steps are simple:
1. Rinse for dust/dirt
2. Remove bugs/tar/bird dr
3. Rince again
4. Wash
5. Rince
6. Dry Completely
7. Spray on wax
Obviously I'm very much a novice, but I am doing a lot of research and I'm hoping to actually get better at this, please bear with me.
</HTML>V/R
Justin.
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Re: Novice Questions November 04, 2004 01:33PM |
<HTML>Ghost,
Thanks for your advice, I really appreciate it.
I'm a firm believer that you should use a product for it's specific purpose. IE: dish soap should be used for dishes. Someone made an amusing point that they don't wash their hair with laundry detergent -- well, that makes sense! However, the last few days it seems like people Dawn their cars a lot -- why is that? (not very important as I never will, but still curious, and what wash would you recommend?)
Polishing I'm not altogether familiar with, though. What "kind" of polish should I use and at what point do you polish? If you could offer me a prep guide for it I'd be very grateful.</HTML>
V/R
Justin.
Thanks for your advice, I really appreciate it.
I'm a firm believer that you should use a product for it's specific purpose. IE: dish soap should be used for dishes. Someone made an amusing point that they don't wash their hair with laundry detergent -- well, that makes sense! However, the last few days it seems like people Dawn their cars a lot -- why is that? (not very important as I never will, but still curious, and what wash would you recommend?)
Polishing I'm not altogether familiar with, though. What "kind" of polish should I use and at what point do you polish? If you could offer me a prep guide for it I'd be very grateful.
</HTML>V/R
Justin.
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Re: Novice Questions November 05, 2004 04:11AM |
<HTML>Hello again Justin,
The issue of using DAWN may not have started with the release of Zaino products but Sal sure made it front page news with all the enthusiast's.
The idea is that if DAWN cuts grease on pots and pans then it would do the same to waxes and polishing oils on ones paint. But as "New Again" pointed out, a 50/50 mixture of water and ISP will remove waxes. If you clay your car it will also remove any wax on your car. So DAWN IMHO is pointless, it also suds way too much and can be difficult to rinse completely off.
"Polishing" paint is basically a two step process, even though it need be only one product. In other words many polishes not only clean the paint surface but also add depth and color to the paint...this though is because they "level" the paint, there is nothing "added" to the paint. Leveling means that via heat and friction the polish abrades away a micro layer of paint. Sadly though your hand alone cannot generate enough heat and friction to do this. A high speed rotary is needed for this which for right now is not something I recommend you take on.
So about the best you can do by hand is clean the paint and then hand polish the paint, which may remove some light surface marring (although I know several pro's who can do wonders by hand alone). Many polishes act as fillers, which while it may look like it is removing the scratches it is really only filling them or hiding them. Much like foundation make-up does on a womans face. It hides or covers up blemishes. This is only temporary though as the fillers will evaporate and/or wash off soon.
I cannot recommend any Eagle One, Meguiar or Mother's polishes/waxes as I really don't use those lines but I know several pro's here do so I am sure they can speak much more authoritively on them than I can.
Lastly, you can remove all the bugs and such as you wash the car, unless of course they are really bad. You may then need a special bug scrubber, one that will remove the bug residue but not harm the paint.
Hope this helps more than it confuses
Anthony</HTML>
Details, Details, Details....It's all in the details!
www.UltimateReflections.NET
The issue of using DAWN may not have started with the release of Zaino products but Sal sure made it front page news with all the enthusiast's.
The idea is that if DAWN cuts grease on pots and pans then it would do the same to waxes and polishing oils on ones paint. But as "New Again" pointed out, a 50/50 mixture of water and ISP will remove waxes. If you clay your car it will also remove any wax on your car. So DAWN IMHO is pointless, it also suds way too much and can be difficult to rinse completely off.
"Polishing" paint is basically a two step process, even though it need be only one product. In other words many polishes not only clean the paint surface but also add depth and color to the paint...this though is because they "level" the paint, there is nothing "added" to the paint. Leveling means that via heat and friction the polish abrades away a micro layer of paint. Sadly though your hand alone cannot generate enough heat and friction to do this. A high speed rotary is needed for this which for right now is not something I recommend you take on.
So about the best you can do by hand is clean the paint and then hand polish the paint, which may remove some light surface marring (although I know several pro's who can do wonders by hand alone). Many polishes act as fillers, which while it may look like it is removing the scratches it is really only filling them or hiding them. Much like foundation make-up does on a womans face. It hides or covers up blemishes. This is only temporary though as the fillers will evaporate and/or wash off soon.
I cannot recommend any Eagle One, Meguiar or Mother's polishes/waxes as I really don't use those lines but I know several pro's here do so I am sure they can speak much more authoritively on them than I can.
Lastly, you can remove all the bugs and such as you wash the car, unless of course they are really bad. You may then need a special bug scrubber, one that will remove the bug residue but not harm the paint.
Hope this helps more than it confuses
Anthony</HTML>
Details, Details, Details....It's all in the details!
www.UltimateReflections.NET
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