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Posted by Dan
<HTML>Hi!! I remember watching Bud's setup at the car care expo last year and Keith was waxing a car with an air powered DA. The job was going about as fast as with the porter cable, but easier on the user. Im thinking of making the switch from electric to air because the palm design of the air DA seems easier to control for inexperienced people(my help).
Do any of you guys use the air DA in your shop? Im switching if it has the same "torque" that the porter cable has on speed #6. I have not even used one for body work, since my home garage can't handle the voltage of a large compressor, so I cant just buy and try.
Dan Draper
DRAPERSAUTOIMAGERY.com</HTML>
Do any of you guys use the air DA in your shop? Im switching if it has the same "torque" that the porter cable has on speed #6. I have not even used one for body work, since my home garage can't handle the voltage of a large compressor, so I cant just buy and try.
Dan Draper
DRAPERSAUTOIMAGERY.com</HTML>
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Re: Air Tools May 21, 2005 01:16AM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 751 |
<HTML>Dan. I dont use an air DA, but I do use an air buffer, it's a great tool but you have to have enough air power to drive it .
The adantage of air tools is that you dont have any electrial cords laying around wet floors, they need only a small amount of maintenance and hardly ever break .
If you have a fixed location they are awesome.
Jim Hammill.</HTML>
The adantage of air tools is that you dont have any electrial cords laying around wet floors, they need only a small amount of maintenance and hardly ever break .
If you have a fixed location they are awesome.
Jim Hammill.</HTML>
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Re: Air Tools May 21, 2005 02:32AM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 3,550 |
<HTML>Dan:
Jim's comments about having sufficient air to power an air tool is critical. The Mini Orbital Waxer you refer to consumes 9 cfm of air at 90 psi.
That means you will need at least a 3HP air compressor that can put out that much cfm at 90 psi.
I would recommend at 5HP or 6HP with 60 gallon tank which will put out 18 to 19 cfm at 90 psi. You can buy one at COSTCO for about $500 or $600.
You might want to also look at the Rotary Shampooer which is even smaller than the Mini Orbital.
It consumes about 11 cfm and is worth every penny you pay for it in terms of reduction of fatigue, improvement of shampooing and speed.
Regards
Bud Abraham</HTML>
buda
Jim's comments about having sufficient air to power an air tool is critical. The Mini Orbital Waxer you refer to consumes 9 cfm of air at 90 psi.
That means you will need at least a 3HP air compressor that can put out that much cfm at 90 psi.
I would recommend at 5HP or 6HP with 60 gallon tank which will put out 18 to 19 cfm at 90 psi. You can buy one at COSTCO for about $500 or $600.
You might want to also look at the Rotary Shampooer which is even smaller than the Mini Orbital.
It consumes about 11 cfm and is worth every penny you pay for it in terms of reduction of fatigue, improvement of shampooing and speed.
Regards
Bud Abraham</HTML>
buda
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Re: Air Tools May 21, 2005 03:05AM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 241 |
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Re: Air Tools May 23, 2005 04:08AM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 894 |
<HTML>Thanks for all of your comments guys.
Bud, thanks for your comment. If I decide to go air, I will probably end up with a larger gas powered compressor. I will be using the unit pretty much only for DA work, but I will try one first to see if its as strong as the porter cable.
Ron, that is a good point. I wonder if 5/16 hose would be better than 3/8 like what the house of kolor guy suggests in his book for the hvlp guns.
Dan Draper
DRAPERSAUTOIMAGERY.com</HTML>
Bud, thanks for your comment. If I decide to go air, I will probably end up with a larger gas powered compressor. I will be using the unit pretty much only for DA work, but I will try one first to see if its as strong as the porter cable.
Ron, that is a good point. I wonder if 5/16 hose would be better than 3/8 like what the house of kolor guy suggests in his book for the hvlp guns.
Dan Draper
DRAPERSAUTOIMAGERY.com</HTML>
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Re: Air Tools May 23, 2005 08:37AM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 64 |
<HTML>Air is great in a fixed shop...we use both but I am old school and pretty close to my Makita and PC. The 5/16th hose is the only way to go! As for being easier on the user...100% easier and very comfy during busy times of the year!
Enjoy...</HTML>
Renny Doyle
Attention To Details
Aircraft & Auto Detailing
www.detailingsuccess.com
Proud Detailers of Air Force One!
PDTA Member
Enjoy...</HTML>
Renny Doyle
Attention To Details
Aircraft & Auto Detailing
www.detailingsuccess.com
Proud Detailers of Air Force One!
PDTA Member
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Re: Air Tools May 23, 2005 02:36PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 894 |
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Re: Air Tools May 23, 2005 09:35PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 1,838 |
<HTML>Ahh, the old polisher on the pole. Renny, I still need to see those blueprints! Renny, did I email you my design or just talk to you about it?
About the air powered high speed buffer, be careful with the psi on those because my first time using one 9 years ago in my paint refinishing school, I zipped right down to the metal because the guage was a bit off.</HTML>
Take care,
Brian
Precision Auto & Marine
Learn to detail boats! Visit www.detailtheboat.com
About the air powered high speed buffer, be careful with the psi on those because my first time using one 9 years ago in my paint refinishing school, I zipped right down to the metal because the guage was a bit off.</HTML>
Take care,
Brian
Precision Auto & Marine
Learn to detail boats! Visit www.detailtheboat.com
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Re: Air Tools May 23, 2005 10:02PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 11 |
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Re: Air Tools May 24, 2005 12:17AM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 64 |
<HTML>The maker of that polisher on a stick is yours truely
Something us aircraft guys like to call a lazy mans finisher! In all truth, that is something we build in house. Brian, when I slow a tad I will send you over the makings of the unit and I would still love to see yours! Brian you still thinking of heading south?
Happy Detailing,</HTML>
Renny Doyle
Attention To Details
Aircraft & Auto Detailing
www.detailingsuccess.com
Proud Detailers of Air Force One!
PDTA Member
Something us aircraft guys like to call a lazy mans finisher! In all truth, that is something we build in house. Brian, when I slow a tad I will send you over the makings of the unit and I would still love to see yours! Brian you still thinking of heading south?Happy Detailing,</HTML>
Renny Doyle
Attention To Details
Aircraft & Auto Detailing
www.detailingsuccess.com
Proud Detailers of Air Force One!
PDTA Member
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Re: Air Tools May 24, 2005 03:22PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 894 |
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Re: Air Tools May 24, 2005 04:25PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 1,838 |
<HTML>Hey Renny,
Always thinking of heading south! Things are too good up here right now. A lot of big jobs down the shore and more marinas in south Jersey. I'll look on your website for the fax number and send you the sketching of my buffer on a stick.
Dan, one word -- fiberglass!</HTML>
Take care,
Brian
Precision Auto & Marine
Learn to detail boats! Visit www.detailtheboat.com
Always thinking of heading south! Things are too good up here right now. A lot of big jobs down the shore and more marinas in south Jersey. I'll look on your website for the fax number and send you the sketching of my buffer on a stick.
Dan, one word -- fiberglass!</HTML>
Take care,
Brian
Precision Auto & Marine
Learn to detail boats! Visit www.detailtheboat.com
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