<HTML>Yeah, Joe!! And watch the "kiddies" just jump all over this, and try to take it to the "bank". After all, this "detailing" business is so easy, is it not? This link is to the "magic way to riches". Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bud, I agree, it is "over" for the majority of the market. 15 years ago, it was the "hot ticket", but today, can we both say, "bye-bye"? Not worth the investment, not worth the customer complaints, not worth the effort. Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>I am amazed the way that they wrote the Advisory, but then, they never tell the dealer, unlike some other vehicle manufacturers, what, if any, labor time and rate is. The way the present the Advisory is not the way that most other companies publish and present the same sort of document. Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>In the next few days, we will be posting a new "technical advisory" from Nissan USA on our website, www.autoint.com. The way the advisory is written may be confusing to some, as it is not written as most other manufacturers produce bulletins. I suggest that if or when, you find time to read it, you spend some time, to really read what it is trying to present. It providesby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Jim, If the flaming starts again, I will be standing by with the extinquisher, promise!!! It is the old Marine thing, you know. Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>So, are you "The" or the "Chemist", one was bouncing around the forums, but never,ever presented their credintials or told any one who they were, if they were a true chemist and for what company, or a detailer, and where they detailed, etc. Is it another time for someone's "alter ego" to come out once again, to "substansiate" their "oby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Very simple to stop the "corrossion-rusting" process. Stop two required, chemical composistions, from reaching the metal. One is "air". Two is "moisture". That is and has been for years the basic chemistry of stopping the "corrossion/rusting" of ferrous metal substrates. Which validates the "manufacturer's accepted" use of prby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bud, You missed the entire point of my reply. Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>I wish I could give you an answer that would solve your concerns, but it would be either very stupid or a lie. When a mobile detailer is in a "strong winter" area, they must face the reality of the weather, the conditions. That means, that during the "good months", they have to put away the bucks, work long and hard hours to produce as must income as they can wheby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>A little interesting chemical information. Polymers used in sealants need "a painted surface" to cationaicaly bond to, they don't do well when asked to bond to metal to provide protection. For protection, IE rust resistant, the formula needs some wax in it. Amino Functional resins, and there are a lot of them, do have the anti-corrossive abilities, but as said, needby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>It is a "great" product, one that I first became aware of in 1990, at the VW port in Houston. It does what it says it will, it has a tough enough resin system to hold up to enviormental conditions. Also, it is not really a "wax", but a combo of some waxes and a lot of quality polymer resins, in enough percentage to really do the job. Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Why not just try the one product that has no odor and does not require special equipment, is non-hazadous, non-toxic and is used by the OEM in their plants? All you have to do is understand the way it works, and follow directions. It is called "Odor Terminator", all you do is make sure it is atomized and "makes contact" with the surfaces. It works on all organicby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Only once, since then, I have been blind, but that's ok, my buddies tell me the car is still setting in the garage, where it has been since the blinding and looks friggen great! Even if I could still see, I would not take it out in the elements, cause that shine that blinded me might go away. Old Blind Man</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Great and professional reply to the question. Is it not disappointing to see that most detail operators are spending all their time trying to find the "magic" polish, cleaner, etc, rather than take some time to understand that first and foremost, they are operating a "business" and a "business" requires paying customers to be successful and profitable?by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Fair question and one that requires each to consider their "sales and presentation" abilities! To attain a "high close rate", takes some real "salesmanship", the ability to make the customer comfortable and "listen" to what you have to say. The "presentation" should be done in a "professional manner", do you not agree? Whaby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Good question for all. Not looking for a "detailed-envolved" response, just name two or three things that you present to a customer that may provide extra sales dollars for the normal services that the customer is requesting. It is very obvious that very successful firms, such as in the oil change, brake services, tire business, dealers service drive, etc, undertake to inby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Why send him to a place of others just like him? The "pro's" are here, and one will come in walk him through how things are really done, versus the "anal" way. Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Jim from the Detailer's Association has provided, recently, an article regarding the changes that are taking place now, regarding the use of "film" in place of paint on vehicle's. In my "get up to date" discussions with a couple of OEM paint suppliers, plus a couple of "plastic film" suppliers to the OEM's and some companies that produce &by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Sorry, Melissa, I meant to type "Macco", cheap paint job. Plus, now that I had to come back to the thread, IPA, is a "drying" agent, as well as a "solvent", so it has many purposes in a formulation. Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Some company's use IPA to reduce foaming of a product, others use it as a "cleaning" agent. Want to see how good it is to clean a "non-clear" paint job that is oxidized? Take a towel, wet it with IPA and hold it for a few seconds on a "non-clear" painted surface that is "oxidized", then wipe it and look at the cloth. Most of the time, yoby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>The CAS#'s or MSDS should provide an indication of what they are using. Many are little more than a percentage of dimetal silicone, emulsified into a water/alcohol mixture. Some of the better ones use polydimethalsiloxane's in the mixture, lasts a bit longer. Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>"Doesn't smell" like etc, etc!! Come on, any decent chemist can add a fragrance to most products, or a dye, and turn it to the marketing guys, which will then create a "hype" expectancy of the targeted user market. We do it all the time, in our plant. A "marketing" company comes to us and asks for a product, we pull up a formula, then they tell usby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Joan, I am not going to go into "step by step", "one should do it this way or that way" sort of thing. Instead, I am going to challenge you to consider, to think about, this. Most are questions, one's that should be answered, in order to arrive at the way a dealership new car prep and used car detailing/reconditioning should be addressed. 1. How many new vby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Rod, Exactly, for no matter what one sprays on that area, in a very short time, it is a mute point. The real question is "why" does a detailer take the extra time and product to do that process? Is it for the detailer's own satisfaction, or does the customer expect it to be done? Since even applying a paint, will quickly be a "mute point", why spend the mby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Sounds more like "ferrous oxides" or "ferrous metal" on the fasica/bumper. Clay em all you want, they will reappear in a month or so, just take a look at what Ford, Hyundai and Mazda, (DaimlerChrysler-Canada has one as well), in their Technical Service Bulletins. Take a look at the first three TSB's at www.autoint.com under the OEM/TSB Section. Ketch</HTby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>There are some real important differences in these types of products. Waterbased, it will tell you if they are in the MSDS, are not the way to go. A solvent born, with a quality resin, is the way to go. I got some sort of clue on this, since we provide DaimlerChrysler, USA, Canada and Mexico, plus Nissan, Renault and Saturn with their fabric protector product. Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Rod, I do agree with Bud, to some extent. It is winter coming, but as Bud says very clearly, you have fixed costs and expenses. If the dealer is honest, based upon his observation and comments regarding your normal work, then that is your start point. Yeah, you are not going to make a "roach coach" look like a high dollar ride for a less price. Set down with him, and &qby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Try our Trim and Molding, it is for "exterior trim" only. Put it on before you buff, polish or apply wax, don't worry about it getting on the paint, just "slather" it on. Do you work. When done with buffing, polishing, or applying wax/sealant, and doing your final detail, carefully reapply the product, then go about wiping off the final wax/sealant. When dby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>In my forty plus years of being a supplier, manufactuer, sales of car chemical products, I have yet to understand why any "professional" would find fragance the reason to use any product. I can understand why a novice or enthusist would want a fragrance, after all they watch t.v., they read magazine ads, have a "conditioning of expectations", etc. But, a "pby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Say "thong", Joe, say "thong". We all know how important, your thong, is to you. Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts