<HTML>That would depend on what kind of product and what solvents are involved. One thing that will be noticable, is many of the "bath tubber" chemical companies will find that their "generic" formula's will have to be discontinued, they will need to seek new formulations and change to the exempt solvents. Many of the "quick and dirty" products will ceasby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Brian, Some months back, we did a VOC evaluation of our products, which contain hydrocarbon solvents. The only one, to this point that had to be reformulated, and only for two private label OEM accounts, was the Fabric Protector. However, in anticipation of more servere regulations, we are presently working to make other formulation changes. It is not going to get better for carby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Dan, I certainly hope that post was not addressed to me. I never find what a detailer says to be boring, for one thing, second, it is only through many expressing their processes, that everyone has an opportunity to look at and consider alternate methods of dealing with a concern. If the customer's vehicle is regularly exposed to this condition, have you considered applying a pby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Move too slowly, and the operator creates excessive heat in the urethane clear. Run the rotary buffer speed at too high of speed, creates excessive heat in the clear. Use a foam or fiber pad, that is too agressive, creates excessive heat in the clear. We worked with SAE, BASF, 3M, Ingersall Rand and Ford Motor Company some years back, regarding the buffing/compounding/polishing ofby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Brian, Great job, you are leading the way, getting it done! A huge job to undertake, with little rewards, but for the satisfaction of knowing that you and Jim have not backed down, done what needs to be done. Let me know the amount of the check we need to send, as a manufacturer for our share of the dues that are required to be part of this forward thinking organization. Ketch<by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Mark, Bud, Exactly, and how many times has this been stated, in many different ways. Bud, you and I do schools, and with both, we always attempt to get this one simple fact of opening a detail operation, "be a businessman", the detailing part comes, or they already have the basics. Why do so many start-up operations fail, be they mobile or fixed, is a question that we andby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bill, over the years, I think I have tried almost everything, and been very sure that I got it all off, "absolutey sure". Only to see a problem, that was very easily identifiable, as "buffer marring" show up. Not always, just some clears, or my failure to follow my own processes, perhaps some dust in the wind, etc, and there they are. I recently had some show upby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Yes, with enough time, enough patience, it may be done on some clears, but not on others. Just like with enough time, patience one can do the same by hand! Not many professional detailers have a client base that will pay the minimum of $40 an hour and the 10 to 12 hours it would take. The IPA wash takes off a lot of the polishing oils, however, take a look a those same vehicles a mby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>I started using a rotary, let's see, it's 2004, I was around 7, so 53 years ago. On the old hard lacquer's, no problem, on the older akaloid enamel's, not a real problem, with micro marring (swirls-holograms-wonder what "whiz kid" came up with that one?), but as the paint technology has changed, the high solid/low solvent materials have been required forby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Dan, yeah, be very, very careful, or the glass may end up with a permanent "frosted" look to it. HF is another way they "etch"glass for putting designs in glass. A safe way to remove, one which Ford recommends, is on our website under the OEM/TSB Section, then click on Ford Tech Tips, it has step by step procedures, with text and pictures. One dealer in Californby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Use of a "rotary buffer" is normally used for two processes. 1. Cutting-which is "abrading away" a very small portion of the paint film. A "cutting pad" is normally used, with a "compound", which when combined with the "cutting pad" and the "abrasives" in the compound, remove a small portion of the paint film. 2. Polishby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bud, at home, don't have my books here, sounds like one of the thousands in the siloxane family. Yeah, Nathan's has been around for a couple of decades, at least. Back in the late 80's and early 90's, they were doing the car show circuit with the "watch how our product protects your finish from burning lighter fluid" etc, snake oil show. If memory servby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bud, believe me, Scott "can walk the walk and talk the talk"! He is very knowable, very business minded, very successful and very dedicated to doing the best work that can be done. Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>When you have deposits that thick, plain old keosene will do most of the work. The lacquer thinner evaporates too quickly, doesn't have time to break the asphalt down. Plus, the use of lacquer thinners, high flash solvents used as paint reducers, may create damage, that will not be seen for a few weeks or months. Just spray the keosene on, let it set until you see the asphaltby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Then, understand that based upon your own "profile", in this thread, you are not a professional detailer, nor do you have the experience to offer the many, non-professional advice posts that you do. I have refrained, as have many others, to bring these sort of posts, to your attention, for it would be unkind. However, you are appearing to do as some of the other, "sorby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>What is this, Brian, with Mustangs and "gel coat"? Where are you seeing or working with "gel coat", on factory built Ford Mustangs or did I miss something here? Been a supplier and finish consultant to Ford for close to twenty years, and don't recall ever seeing the use of "gel coat" on Mustangs that Ford built. ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>The "school" is not "GM Certified", however, we do produce and private label some car care products for GM's AC/Delco division, as well as a complete line for their Saab division, and their Saturn division. If your owner or manager, wishes, I can send them the literature, product part numbers, etc. Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Let's start with "what kind of paint", "how long on the seat", "what color of leather", "what brand and age of the vehicle", the normal sort of diagnoistic questions that any professional, be it your attorney, doctor or accountant would require. Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Read the book, got the movie, and as far as the Swift Boat thing, I will just sit back and wait for all the crap, that will come out,- come out. I don't jump just because there is a gun, even a "smoking one", too many out there with agenda's at this time, and too many damned liars as well. When I was active in the Corp, and to this day, there is only one Commandeby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>What was the rest of the "test"? Like what kind of buffer, what speed used for each, what pad, by who, was the same about of time spent on the same defined area, etc, etc. ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Joe, Send Annie, one of your special photos of you in your tiger stripped thong! That ought to get some action going. I am not going to say what "kind of action", but in my mind, has to do with her leaning over a waste basket, some convulsions, regurgitation, involved, etc. Yeah, I know, "you are going to get me for this one", but what the hell. Ketch</HTMby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Joe, aren't the "want-a-be", "novices", fun?? They come jumping in, all excited, all enthusised, their chest all pumped up, "got the answers to everything", cause someone put a bucket over their head and beat the hell out of it, until they were brained washed! Awww @!#$, now I am going back to boot!! Anyway, you have many, successful years of beinby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>John, this is the time for some real "diagnois" by you. While it is not possible to provide a real intelligent diagnois of the condition, I do have a couple of questions for you, that any trained and experienced detailer might ask before jumping in with a "cure all" answer. Look closely at the edges of the panels, the chrome or other trim, in the areas of the vehby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Thanks for the kind comments, Scotty! One of the real reasons that I started this thread, is if those who post their background, who they really are, do so, honestly, it provides a more real "mental picture" of who we are answering to. As we whw have been here a while, been operating shops, mobile operations for more than a year or so are aware, some come in and start theby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Joe, you and I have been playing with cars for years, me a few more than you. We both have the tools, as does Scotty, we both have other vehicle's to drive other than our "toys", for everyday, as does Scotty, and and we appreciate the "real world of real cars", not these "computer, safety for Momma's and the kids, kick you in the butt, require a couby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Scotty, you made some money, and as your Father might of said, why piss it away. A new vehicle, depreciates very quickly. However, and since you don't care to go through all the hassles of doing a restore, how about finding a decently restored Mustang, Camaro, etc? Cost would not be more than a new sports or whatever. Plus, these restored vehicles, if taken care of, do not deby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Hoorahh!! Semper Fi, and all those things that are in reality, long gone. Not a bit, of too much, Eric, for that is "exactly" what is needed to be presented here. An honest post of this nature, is "who you are, how you got to where you do, what you do", and "where you see yourself, today", sort of thing. I liked it, but I am old and easily pleased, jby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Are you referring to Willie, out of Hickory? If so, he is listed on the www.autoint.com site under the Find a Detailer area. Don't be surprised if he don't call back, I was there earlier this year, left a message and never heard a word back. But, I understand that, after all, I am "Grumpy". Ketch</HTML>by Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>I started when, actually, 5 years old, hanging around the bodyshop building that my father rented out, part of his farm machinery and truck business complex, in a small town in Illinois, on the Mississippi River. By the time I was 7, I had to try my hand at painting, and Dad had a really beat up old Studebaker trade in, that was a peice of crap. I cleaned it, I sanded it, and I painby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>This forum has been seeing a lot of new posters lately. As most who have been here awhile, we have seen our share of "hackers", "wantabee's", etc come on the board and profess their "great idea's", their knowledge, etc. So, here is an idea for all to consider. Why not just be honest, just be up-front, and say on this thread what your backgrouby Grumpy - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts