Long Term Fillers - is it possible? May 31, 2011 10:00PM |
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"I do not have alot of experience in this area" By applying the Opti-Coat are you not filling in the clear and thickening it at the same time?
Re: Long Term Fillers - is it possible? June 01, 2011 06:07PM |
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Re: Long Term Fillers - is it possible? June 01, 2011 06:42PM |
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I am confused. Here is a vehicle that has scratches all over it. Are these not defects? Opti-Coat is used here, and it appears they are gone. When you refer to defects do you mean swirl marks only?
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Re: Long Term Fillers - is it possible? June 03, 2011 02:20AM |
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buffer bill
Now I am confused?
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I thought it was permanent, and now you imply that it is
a sacrificial barrier like wax.
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buffer bill
If I can remove them then I will go to protection full time by applying AT-5.
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From what I have seen on forums that once damage occurs to your clear it may not be removed.
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buffer bill
Like I have said many times: protect first, and you will not have to
correct it.
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The key to the protection IMO is to reapply the sealant every year.By doing this you avoid correcting the clear for defects, and stripping the finish of waxes, fillers ,and glazes.
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That is why I like to deal with customers with new cars.
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Re: Long Term Fillers - is it possible? June 03, 2011 10:13PM |
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It is really easy to be a critic, and make statements about things you have no real experience with, or even tried.
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I have not said one bad thing about Opti-Coat as far about protection because I have not tried it. I have concerns about it for several reasons. The main one is that I have seen products like this one in the past that had problems with them.
Time will tell if this product really works.
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No. This logic is soo ass backwards I really do not think I could explain it to you in a way that would make sense to you. Why, because you have never tried AT-5.
You think it is no different than a normal wax or sealant, and that is where you do not get it.
They are. Look at the trunk section of the red Lexus and it looks pathetic. You should be ashamed to claim that you maintain these vehicles. It quite pathetic actually.Quote
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Covered with swirls? These cars are damaged? Really!
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Well I would consider this damage.
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Can this mess be repaired without fillers, glazes, or waxes?
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billd55
Well, IMO if it cannot be fixed permanently it is damaged. If you think the cars
in my videos look anything like this Jeep than who is fooling who. I can wash
any of these cars with Dawn, and they will NEVER look like this turd.
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Here is a 2011 white porsche, and you can plainly see scratches all over this
car. It only has 6K on it, and it already needs correction. Anyone without
huge ego could see scratches on the white Lexus if they were actually there.
You will notice that these pictures of the Porsche were taken out of the sun,
and I can see the scratches and marring very easily.
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Re: Long Term Fillers - is it possible? June 04, 2011 04:03AM |
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buffer bill the eluder
Well let me see. I can wash may car with Dawn soap, and I have no problems at all.
Can you do that with any standard wax? Why do correction detailers use Dawn to strip wax and poly sealants?
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buffer bill the reading disabled
Is it really? That jeep is a 06 that has been completed repainted once. Sure,
he can put more glazes, fillers,and wax on it to cover the damage, put a couple of Dawn washes will bring it right back to this condition.
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bill the blind detailer
Where are these scratches you mention? They must be in your head. Really,
I am done talking to you with you because it is like talking to a wall.
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bill the upset car waxer
I am sure you do not have a clue about anything relating to AT-5, and I am really sick of your insults plus calling me a liar. I have shown many examples of my work, but have not seen any of yours.
Re: Long Term Fillers - is it possible? June 05, 2011 09:51AM |
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OK, I didn't leave for good. I tried asking about sanding techniques in a thread a few weeks ago, but nobody answered it.
It seems to be a surface protection forum then!
@SVR - Matt, you talk about long term fillers in several posts. Can you elaborate on what you are filling with and how.
I use SCDG from RMP, as you know. In my opinion (so far), it doesn't really fill that much. Only very, very light swirl marks when a few coats are applied with DA. Its a waste of time doing that. Use a polish first with the DA and get rid of the light swirls, then use the SCDG. P1 with a soft pad doesn't remove anything that can be measured with a gauge (unless you are a lunatic with it!) so its not hazardous to finish or UV protection, etc.
But I am wondering how you achieve the filling that you claim to get. I have tried a few other of these carbon-silicon bonding products, but I don't see a good fill and a long-term fill is needed on modern clear coats. Especially Japanese car paint like Lexus, Mitsubishi, Nissan, etc. (although I do most work on German cars with Glasurit BASF, Sikkens, etc. I would have thought the Jap scientists would have had a vinyl-benzyl functional resin that can fill like that in the long-term, but still most manufacturers are using the Dow-Corning resins that only give short-term epoxy-functional seal and fill.
What's your secret then? You using an extra catalyst or something? I know you get funny stuff from Glare or FireGlaze chemists.... spill the beans, mate.
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