Hey, thanks for bumping the traffic to these You-Tube pages!!! Much appreciated!!! Not only are you a physco-path-etic loser, but you’re about the stupidest person I’ve ever seen post on the internet. I can’t believe it finally clicked in your small brain who I am? Not only have I linked to multiple of my threads from other forums, but I’ve also had these same back n forth conversations with yby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
So, it other words the test is wortless. Makes sense to me. I figured as much. QUESTION: Why on earth would a company go through all this effort just to perform a bogus test? ANSWER: To fool people into thinking the product is better then it really is. Case in point when I spoke to their owner when he claimed that Teflon is totally worthless when used in sealants, but he adds it inby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Here's another good laugh: Bill claims AT-5 offers "real protection" and can last 5 years, but this boat looks horrendous and needs to get pre-cleaned and resealed every year(or sooner). Just proves that AT-5 is a bunch of hype and the test results above are fake. Any product that offers real protection will block out contaminants and UV from attacking the finish. The owner ofby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Whopty Friggin Do!!! Do you forward this link to your clients to make them feel all warm & fuzzy about your product? This proves nothing other then someone of bias making up a bunch of illegitimate hype to sell their product. You can read the same literature on the salesperson's desk at a dealership when they try pushing their in-house paint sealant brand. Give me the contact namesby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
I love how you consider yourself a savior of clear coat when the only thing you believe in doing is slattering on a hard to apply Teflon sealant over a pre-swirled finish and think you're protecting a car. If you properly wash a car in the 1st place the only correction that may periodically be needed will be light polishing. I would estimate that this polishing process could safely be done sby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Big friggin deal! You watched people wash and wax a couple planes almost 8 years ago. You make it sound like you're the head honcho on some covert mission. Just reinforces that you do indeed have a business relationship with GEM that has been struggling for a long period of time which is most likely the reason someone your age can't make it as a professional full time detailer.by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Again. You're on a need to know basis Bill. The last thing I'd do is share personal info with a skitzo nutbag such as yourself. I can't help thinking you're like one of those creeps that get caught on To Catch a Predator.by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
billd55 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Liar. They told me that you tried becoming a > distributor for their products but failed > miserably. We all know exactly why you have such a > hard on for these people. > > > Look asshole I do not appreciate being called a > liar! You are a rude jerk, and I have enough your > crap. Youby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Not hard huh? Is that why it takes you nearly 5 hours to apply it? Either you have a severe mental and physical handicap or this product is total junk. (and you criticize people for taking so long to polish paint) Maybe you should convince your puppet master that his 25 year old formula needs to have some silicone added?by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Dealer Installed Swirl Option (DISO) This is the exact option that Bill's buddy Moonlight's vehicle was equipped with by the dealer.by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
billd55 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >AT-5 drys within minutes. In fact > I do small sections, and wipe it off almost upon > contact. > > > > If you apply it to a large section and come back > to take it off. It will not come > off. You will have to reapply it to remove it. Sounds like some of the ancient teflon seaby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
My 1st point is that you criticize wax for being around since the 50's but fail to see that AT-5 has been around for 25 years. My second point is that your miracle teflon sealant has a 5 year warranty and claims to have been tested by an independent lab (without proof), used on planes and all your client's cars, but you still have the need to reapply it annually. If it's so greby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Business is GREAT in both S.E. Florida & Metro Detroit!!!by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
billd55 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Look I do not work for Gem , . Liar. They told me that you tried becoming a distributor for their products but failed miserably. We all know exactly why you have such a hard on for these people.by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
NO. You are wrong and everyone is right. That's why nobody here or on any other forum has ever agreed with anything you're stated. You keep beating your anti-wax & correction drum,but nobody is marching to your beat.by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Wax had ZERO to do with the condition of this car's finish. PERIOD!!! This is a blatant attempt by the dealer to incorrectly remove something from the paint on this new car and/or their detailer that polished the paint for delivery is an inexperienced hack like you. Pretty obvious to me. You obviously don't know that claying a car is an abrasive action and causes micromarring ofby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
billd55 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Are you a real detailer because you use a product from the > 50's which requires correction to make it look > good. I guess you're a real detailer if you use a teflon paint sealant that has been around over 25 years that offers a 5 year warranty but ends up needing to be reapplied every yearby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
billd55 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > They sure do, and that is there right to do so, > but at least they offer a product like AT-5. > > there are real detailers out there that want wax, so he > will sell it to them. > > One minute you state that you're not a "real" detailer if you use waxby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Great thread here Gina. And, another lame attempt/excuse from Bill to skirt around the questions that would further expose him at being even more of a hack then most already believe he is. I seriously doubt that Bill has ANY real world experience at not only detailing on a professional level, but running any kind of legitimate business. His responses reek of inexperience actually. Many might notby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
moonlight46 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >>billd55 your right the others dont understand this is my problem No, you and Bill are both WRONG. It *can* and *will be* your problem *if* you let it. Otherwise, (if you’re wise) you’d bring this issue up with the selling dealer just to document the problem. This way, if the problem gets worse, you have ½ a lby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
50 hours is rediculous and not necessary unless the client is requesting perfection. And 50 hours of polishing usually isn't the SOP for exterior correction unless wetsanding is involved (which could take more time). With today's modern micro-compounds and processes it has drastically reduced vehicle touch times. This type of operation is a specialty of the enthusiast crowd and doesnby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Bill - If AT-5 is guaranteed for 5 years, why are you reapplying it every year then? Either you're ripping your customers off or AT-5 is? (you must love swiss cheese because your stories are full of holes )by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
I would 1st bring this issue up to the dealership you purchased the car from. This car most likely hasn't been properly maintained from day one and has obvious signs of environmental contamination. A clay bar will remove the topical deposits, but will not stop the remaining contaminants from creating further damage to the finish. I would try a product created to remove the problem 1st and fby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Funny that Gem's puppet is forgetting the fact that his master also sells a WAX and a COMPOUND. Why don't you ask your creator what his opinion on Wax and paint correction is seeing that you are their little AT-5 zombie.by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Profile Detailer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thats a good reply, Gina. > > Don't insurance companies write-off the car and > have it crushed and recycled? Especially with all > the health risks you point out - and costs > associated in cleaning. Agreed. Gina's replay was excellent! Insurance companies usually declareby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
billd55 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I would like to see what your customer's cars look > like when they come back to you, > Then we can all determine if what you do is a true > benefit to your customer. > > In my Jeep and Tahoe videos it shows what I have > to offer. I’d never last in the detailing business, nor could Iby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Bill - You've been put on a Need to Know basis for sharing of information. I'd hate for you to continue stalking me even more then you already have. Plus, if I shared my work experiences with you, you might get jealous or copy me.by Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Bill - last time I checked, YOU are the only one showing off their work here. This isn't a Shine N Show forum, this is where professional detailers (not wash n waxers) discuss detailing. Sorry you feel the need to glamourize yourself by doing so. You want to post videos and pics of your work, stick to You-Tube just like all the other hacks do. You think detailing is getting paid $120 to washby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
Thank you so much for posting yet another video to show how much of a hack condo car wash & waxer you are Bill. You’re bragging about how great this car looks after the AT-5, yet it’s covered in swirls and scratches. And that’s no easy task to display with a crappy camera and a car that’s partially in the shade. Just further proves that that car is a mess just like all the others you post vidby Pro-Techt - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts