<HTML>Just input from the tire manufacturers and vehicle manufacturers, so there are so facts from them out there for detailers to condsider. After all, in today's "sue happy" world, we are all a target, either now, or later. ketch</HTML>by Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bud, As the facts show, the test was "tilted" to make one product show better performance. That is shown by the "cure" time and your Ms. Hitti's response of "we did what the label said was the cure time '. Yet, on the product that the "test" shown to have the best performance, it was allowed a full 24 hour cure time before exposure to thby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bud, It has to do with the validity of "your test", not your product. The test is tainted, period. Ketch</HTML>by Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Sounds like any of the lower quality, easily available mineral spirits would do the job better. Not sure, but at least this solvent would be very active without damaging the paint. Or the trim pieces. Dwell time of the solvent is important, and when you have let it "dwell" , (set and work), then wash with a good carwash shampoo, it should emulsify, turn the runoff into aby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Interestingly enough, I have had a couple of personal emails to me regarding the "instructions on the label" issue. Both stated that the instructions do not state that the product must be allowed to cure for 24 hours before exposure to water or washing. I asked both to please jump in and post here as to what they read on the bottle's instructions, rather than email meby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Very well stated. I have no issue with whether one sealant maybe "better" than another. My one and only issue is that whatever "test" being done, and the "publication" of such test, be "equal" and done with an industry accepted protocal. I feel sure that the top rated sealants, in the test, are sealants that perform. What concerns me is whenby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bud, I AM not inferring that products or components made out side the USA are bad quality. Just the opposite, for the most part, the quality is as high or in some cases, higher than made here. I am not bashing the U.S. Worker or U.S Companies, just pointing out, to all those who read these threads, that it is a "global economy", one in which world wide standards have comeby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Anthony, There are several vehicle manufacturers, who have tested the clay bars for this concern. Their technical bulletins are on www.autoint.com under the OEM/TSB section . The one that does the best at explaining, with "pictographs" of what really goes on, is the Ford TSB. The site has other vehicle manufactuers TSB's as well, and a new one is forthcoming from Miby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bill, 303 is damned fine product. However, in reality it is not different than the PDMS products made by Mequiar's, ValuGard, AutoMagic, etc, in which the PDMS resin is mixed with water as it's carrier. The main difference in the 303 is the percentage of resin, they put in a higher percentage of it, which is why it is more costly than others. The quality resin is expensiby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>This is not "new", has been around for at least 6 to 7 years. While it appears to be the "way", there are downsides to the use of such a system. They are a bit technical and very serious. Use of "high temperature" steam on today's high solid paint systems, creates a situation that aircraft manufacturers have had to deal with for years. It is &quby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bill, It gets more involved, as you go through the "logic" of this subject. Let's start with "applying paint to a vehicle's surface". At this point, you may be asking yourself, "what the hell does that have to do with a tire dressing"? Logic, my friend, logic. When one wishes to apply paint to a vehicles body, some "cleaning" stepby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bill, Hell, all of us who make or market products, will use marketing, etc to sell products. Ever think about "how the life insurance salesman" gets your attention? Anyway, it is really very simple, for those who "wish to listen to logic"> Has anyone, be they a professional detailer for more than 10 to 20 years, or an enthusist that just likes their car to lby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Go get to the hardware store and get a quart of mineral spirits. It will do what you want, with out damage. Just give it time to work, don't go playing "rubby-dub" and when, or if the sap comes off, (some saps require a different solvent), wash the area and do your polish/wax job with the high priced boutique product you find so wonderful. Ketch</HTML>by Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Hey, all, The ability for a "water based" or "hydrocarbon" based dressing to have "real UV" blockers in it, is not really possible, chemically. What the "UV" protection that is provided, is really the "reflective" value of the gloss provided. Ever go out an buy true "UV" protective additives? If they were truly in any ofby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Do some "serious" research, and you may well find that most of the "marketed" films are in reality, 3M film. There are some other "real manufacturers" of film, but most are just remarketed 3M. Private label is a less expensive way to keep the profits coming in, the plants working. Ketch</HTML>by Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>What you are seeking is a two or three (three is better) clarifier unit. It must be inserted into the ground, and all affulent water flow from the operation, must flow into it, before entering the city's sewer system, etc. Dependant upon where you are, what your city, county and state regulations are, cost of labor, etc, this may cost between $3,000 and $7,000 for the unit. Keby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>The big dog, 3M, brought to the market, about 12 years ago, a "film", that has grown to a big share of market. The one you are asking about, good luck, since most owners, in my opinion, will not accept a "black strip" across the front of their hood's area. I have been wrong before, but does not appear to be a "long term, profitable" option for mosby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Not familar with this particular company. Have heard of others, but in the end, they use water or steam, in a some amount, to get the job done. Most are just "buzz word" advertising, not much more than that. Check them out deeply, ask probing questions of the process they are promoting. Ketch</HTML>by Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>First, how long ago did this happen, and second, is what kind of vehicle or brand, what year is this vehicle, can you describe the trim, is it "grained" or a "pebble" type finish? What parts are damaged? Mirrors, door handles, bumpers, what? A quality, trained detailer does just as your doctor, accountant or lawyer, perhaps the Service Advisor at a dealership, qby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Are you a "professional" that makes a living in the detail industry? I gather you are not, would not have asked the question. If you are not a professional, or truly dedicated to learning how to use a true "rotary buffer", which is much different than a dual action, stick with the dual action buffer. Ketch</HTML>by Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>There are several Trusted Professional Detailers listed as well under the Find a Detailer section on www.autoint.com Click the Illinois box and they will come up with phone numbers, addresses, etc. Ketch</HTML>by Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Dan, It is not that hard, it is a "business", and that is what most that have not survived and or have been profitable for at least 5 years, don't understand. It's a business, not a "passion", and must be operated as such. That means a lot of things. We recently did a "culling" of the Trusted Professional Detailers, by a simple phone call orby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bill, Isn't it amazing how so many, will spend so many hours and hours, talking about "how to do this and how to do that", and they don't even have a clue of what they are dealing with? Is it not amazing the amount of time that is spend by many, buying products, expecting miracles, then buy some more product, and then call the product crap, cause it didn't wby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>We have been making a "chemical system" for years that removes "hard water spots", from paint. However, maybe not you, but most don't know a "water spot" from an "etch", and just keep throwing stuff at them. Water spots can be washed off, with the right chemicals. Etching is like a hole in your blue jeans, must be repaired. Over simplifby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Water is the most used solvent in the world. Time is important. A good non butyl all purpose cleaner, makes water a better solvent. Wet the areas, take some time to do some other things, like pull out the floor mats, etc. Spray the water wetted area of the bugs with the all purpose, go do some other work on the vehicle,, but keep the bug splattered area wet. Know why people by hyby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Damned good product. However, the reasont that the instructions call for "hand application" is that it is a protective wax/sealant blend. The products they make, and gather that we are on the same thoughts, are not polishes. That would require that you apply them by either hand or a soft foam pad on a dual action or orbital machine. To attempt to apply them with a "by Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Apparently they are some what "hesitant", but always seem to have the dollars to "advertise" what they want to sell to the unsuspecting. Ketch</HTML>by Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bill, Cost is always a factor to the chemical manufacturers. The OEM's that we private label for may require that we pay for the entire test, or if they are in a bind, need a product/products to solve a warranty issue, Federal Recall, etc, may ask that we pay half, or best is when they pay all the testing costs. There is a new Mazda TSB coming out regarding corossion issues, aby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Bill, it may be a good product. However, what is missing, for the most part, in this industry of detailing, is "real documented, facts", and the "testing" that a "chemical manufacturer" may submit as "facts from their testing", is not acceptable. Sort of like the "testing" that goes on over at that forum you moderate for, or the &quoby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts
<HTML>Yeah, that's the plant, Ford Rangers and Mazda B-2000's built there. Look at it while you can, for it is scheduled for shutdown. Too old to revamp, so it goes away. They will be built in a new plant in Detriot now. Companies always try to knock off other's products, we have been known to "reverse engineer" a really good product from time to time. This oneby Ketcham - Auto Detailing: Secrets of the Experts